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Investment Executive: Serving the Middle Market

Originally published on December 22, 2016 in Investment Executive magazine

Sandi Martin offers fee-only planning services to a far-flung base of clients from the comfort of her home in Ontario’s picturesque cottage country

Sandi Martin truly likes “regular people.” So, when she decided to start up her independent practice, she knew those people were the type of client she wanted to help with their financial planning needs.

There are not many advisors available for clients who have competing financial priorities and don’t always have the cash to cover all of those needs, says Martin, founder of Spring Personal Finance in Gravenhurst, Ont.

Martin’s independent practice is the result of an ambition she developed early in her career in financial services. After graduating from York University in Toronto, Martin began working as a personal banker in 2005 at a retail branch of Toronto-based Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC) in nearby Newmarket, Ont. There, she became interested in helping middle-class Canadians reach their long-term financial goals. Her responsibilities included handling her clients’ investment and borrowing needs. However, the retail banking emphasis on the selling of products was not compatible with the type of service Martin wanted to provide.

“You’re just seeing the tip of the iceberg when all you’re talking about is someone’s mortgage renewal,” Martin says. “That’s only one piece, and sometimes people don’t know what all of the other pieces are and how they fit together.”

Martin and her husband, Seth, were determined to move back to Martin’s hometown of Gravenhurst, north of Newmarket. So, when a position opened up at a CIBC branch in Huntsville in 2007, Martin jumped at the chance to relocate.

Comprehensive planning

Driven by a desire to provide a more comprehensive level of financial planning, Martin left the bank on Dec. 31, 2012, and registered her independent business as an advice-only planner on Jan. 1, 2013.

Martin saw immediate interest in the advice-only planning she wanted to provide. A consumer business publication had begun to publicize advice-only planning through its stories and included her name in its national directory of advice-only planners. She also became acquainted with a popular personal finance blogger who had asked Martin to contribute to his site, which further increased her exposure. Within two months of starting her business, Martin landed her first client.

Martin has clients in Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia, and she prepared 60 financial plans in 2016. She typically works with six clients at any given time – not counting retainer clients and new clients in the discovery stage.

Martin’s ability to attract clients is due in part to being among the minority of advisors who provide financial services in this way, she says: “It is a pretty small pool of people who can work with anybody across the country on an advice-only basis.”

Martin appeals to middle-market clients because she understands that she has to offer flexibility – which is a key component in her service offering.

Her clients can choose how much advice they require, so pricing varies accordingly. Martin has three tiers of service: an hourly fee for clients who simply want to ask a few questions; a project fee for individuals who would like a documented financial plan; and a retainer fee for clients who want ongoing advice.

All fees and descriptions of Martin’s services are available on her website, which reinforces her emphasis on the importance of full transparency regarding her fees.

“The kind of clients that I want to work with typically received their advice for free [in the past],” Martin says. “If they can accept the fees and then we talk, I think that’s a more efficient use of everyone’s time.”

Thanks to the power of technology, Martin serves clients across the country from her home office. Clients can choose how and when they want to “meet” with Martin, who always strives to make her meetings as convenient for clients as the time slots are for her. She conducts meetings by phone or through online video calling at times that are mutually beneficial.

No sales of products

Martin isn’t registered to sell securities of any kind anymore – and she prefers to work that way. She believes the service of providing financial advice should remain distinct from the selling of products. She recently wrote her certified financial planner examination and is awaiting the results.

Martin’s commitment to transparency is not limited to her fee structure. Just as she wants to get to know her clients and understand their priorities, she is very clear with clients about who she is, what she believes in and what makes her laugh. Martin has a lively sense of humour and any conversation with her is likely to be punctuated with laughter and self-deprecating humour.

“I’m not ever going to have perfect hair and be in a suit and act professional all of the time,” Martin says. “I want to act with professional dignity, but that doesn’t mean not being myself.”

Martin’s efforts to avoid the “sober bank manager” stereotype work well with her client base. That image of the serious banking professional can intimidate clients and make them nervous about asking questions, she says.

Educating middle-class clients about the facets of personal finance has become a mission for Martin, who uses social media, a newsletter and podcasting to share her thoughts and resources on these matters.

Martin is one of the hosts of the Because Money podcast, which is in its third season (more than 40 episodes in total) and involves interviews with personal finance bloggers and journalists. The podcasts, which run approximately 30 minutes, cover topics such as the distinctions among investment products, budgeting and the regulation of financial advice.

“I hope that we can make people at least brush up against the topic [of regulation], so that the next time they hear about it, it’s slightly familiar,” Martin says, “so that people who have a vested interest in keeping the status quo or keeping investors from knowing what’s going on can’t do that quite as successfully.”

Martin may seem like a one-person show, but she works closely with other professionals. She co-hosts the current season of Because Money with Chris Enns, a fee-only planner in Toronto, and John Robertson, a financial writer and educator, also in Toronto, whose work focuses on do-it-yourself investing. In addition, Robertson is her partner in the development of an online calculator that allows clients to compare the costs of various robo-advisors.

Martin receives guidance and financial planning help from her mentor, Julia Chung, a fee- only planner in South Surrey, B.C. The two are exploring the possibility of entering into a formal business partnership this year, Martin says.

Comfort of home

Martin, age 37, gets to execute her business model from the comfort of her home in Gravenhurst, a picturesque town of fewer than 15,000 people within the Muskoka District Municipality, which is famous for its Nature trails and lakeside living.

“Ten years ago, if you wanted to be an [advice-only] financial planner or you wanted to do any service-based professional job as your own boss, you needed to be in a population centre that could support it. But, thanks, Internet!” she says with a laugh.

The way in which Martin runs her business has enabled her to spend more time with her husband and their children, Max, 8; Oscar, 6; and Lucy, 4. The Martins can be found volunteering at their children’s school during the academic year and enjoying Lake Muskoka with the kids in the summer.

“I never liked the idea of owing my allegiance and my nine-to-five, evenings and some weekends to some company that doesn’t care if I’m at home for supper,” Martin says. “I like being able to stop in the middle of my day if I have to and go pick my kids up at school if they’re sick. [That lifestyle] is non-negotiable now.”

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Canadian Couch Potato: Planning vs. Investing

Originally published on the Canadian Couch Potato on December 15, 2016

This interview with friend and colleague Dan Bortolotti at the beginning of his (now ended) Canadian Couch Potato podcast gets into the important (and frequently misunderstood) differences between financial planning and investment management, why it’s important for plans need to come before products, and the growing presence of robo-advisors in Canada.

Listen to the full episode below.

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Quick Update: Retirement Income Interview

In case you've been missing Because Money (on hiatus as we plan for Season Three), I just did an interview with Kornel Szrejber on retirement income planning, and we managed to squeeze a few laughs out of what is traditionally a less-than-hilarious topic. 

Some of the questions he asked (and I tried to answer without going too far down any one rabbit hole) were:

  • How does earning income in retirement affect planning?

  • What is “sequence of returns risk” and how can we protect ourselves from it?

  • What is an RPP, a LIRA, and  LIF, and how are they connected?

  • What are “defined benefit plans” vs “defined contribution plans”?

  • What numbers do you like to use when forecasting returns for stocks and bonds? What are real vs nominal returns?

  • Can you talk about annuities and how they might fit into a retirement income strategy?

Spoiler alert: There was no way I was going to be able to answer every question as deeply as I'd like to. 

The episode is live on the Build Wealth Canada website, as well as a list of resources for those who want to dig deeper into sprawling topic. 

 

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VIDEO SERIES: Carrick Talks Money

I had a chance to meet with Rob Carrick at the Globe and Mail in February and record three Carrick Talks Money segments. Our goal was to demystify financial planning for regular people and to demonstrate that it's not an exclusive exercise for the wealthy.

Carrick Talks Money: How a financial planner can lighten your load

Rob asks what financial planning for average families looks like and we discuss the difference between financial planning and investment advice.

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Carrick Talks Money: How much does a financial planner charge?

Rob asks what the cost of financial planning would be for a family with young kids or a couple close to retirement, and we laugh the kind of financial plans that are really just huge reports that go in a drawer and no one ever reads.

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The biggest financial planning mistakes people make

Rob asks me what kind of mistakes I see people making often. Spoiler alert: I talk about cash flow.

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